Shauna Shapiro, Ph.D. is an internationally recognized expert on mindfulness. She is also a licensed clinical psychologist, an Associate Professor of Psychology at Santa Clara University, and the co-author of the books "The Art and Science of Mindfulness" and "Mindful Discipline: A Loving Approach to Setting Limits and Raising an Emotionally Intelligent Child." Shauna and I discussed a way into meditation and mindfulness that is, somewhat surprisingly, not predicated around spirituality - rather, one that is focused on science and research. We spent some time speaking about some of the studies and clinical research she's done, including work with women with breast cancer, as well as increased empathy with physicians. Definitely check this one out, Shauna is super interesting and is doing great work in the world. Today's track is by Cory Gray - it's called "Tell the Future" and is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License.